Comments on: A Bachelor’s Degree But No Job – Shouldn’t Colleges Stand Behind their Product? http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/ The number one college bound site on the Internet. Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:37:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: shane http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-12689 shane Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:27:41 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-12689 I graduated with my BBA from UTSA 2 years ago.... i have been putting siding up over ASBESTOS on houses (on my own not currently employed by anyone) for minimum wage. I cant pay my college loans back because i cant even afford to feed myself (and i dont qualify for food stamps for some reason). I dont know what to do my college didnt help AT ALL in finding work./ DONT SEND YOUR KIDS TO COLLEGE PLEASE FOR THEIR OWN SAKE. I graduated with my BBA from UTSA 2 years ago…. i have been putting siding up over ASBESTOS on houses (on my own not currently employed by anyone) for minimum wage.
I cant pay my college loans back because i cant even afford to feed myself (and i dont qualify for food stamps for some reason). I dont know what to do my college didnt help AT ALL in finding work./ DONT SEND YOUR KIDS TO COLLEGE PLEASE FOR THEIR OWN SAKE.

]]> By: it? http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-12592 it? Thu, 03 Mar 2011 05:56:53 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-12592 I also earned a Bachelors in IT recently and no job only one call in one year Its really depressing. Not only that how do you keep your skills relevant when IT changes super fast.You cant keep up with it. In a couple of years there will be new grads with newer skills and who do u think will have a better chance of finding a job. So now i realize that schools and american media were lying about IT jobs they knew a large percentage of them were going to be outsourced but they still advertise these IT careers like crazy. They just wanted many foolish young students to waste their money on worthless degrees at their universities and tech schools. I also earned a Bachelors in IT recently and no job only one call in one year Its really depressing. Not only that how do you keep your skills relevant when IT changes super fast.You cant keep up with it. In a couple of years there will be new grads with newer skills and who do u think will have a better chance of finding a job. So now i realize that schools and american media were lying about IT jobs they knew a large percentage of them were going to be outsourced but they still advertise these IT careers like crazy. They just wanted many foolish young students to waste their money on worthless degrees at their universities and tech schools.

]]> By: Jacob Cook http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-10799 Jacob Cook Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:17:33 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-10799 It should be called a dedication degree in about 75% of the majors you can attain. Employers want to see that you were dedicated enough to stick it out for 4 years or 2 years and graduate. I have a 4 year degree and remember information from I think 1 teacher who cared about the subject matter. I think that colleges need to be better about rating the professors that are teaching. That is their part of the deal and the students are there to learn. I think it is funny that I could study a test given 4 years earlier in most classes to pass the current test I was taking. In 4 years that teacher was so lazy that he didn't even change it up. I am paying for him/her to be the best they can in order to make me that much more marketable. Imagine if they used the same car parts from 4 years ago in the brand new models- nobody would buy. Same difference- Instead of judging the students and grading the students it should be flipped and you should judge the teachers. I should be able to see a real time student driven assessment of each teacher. Things are changing and I think you are gonna see a mad scramble by universities when the prestigiousness of the school is challenged by technology and savvy students. It should be called a dedication degree in about 75% of the majors you can attain. Employers want to see that you were dedicated enough to stick it out for 4 years or 2 years and graduate. I have a 4 year degree and remember information from I think 1 teacher who cared about the subject matter. I think that colleges need to be better about rating the professors that are teaching. That is their part of the deal and the students are there to learn. I think it is funny that I could study a test given 4 years earlier in most classes to pass the current test I was taking. In 4 years that teacher was so lazy that he didn’t even change it up. I am paying for him/her to be the best they can in order to make me that much more marketable. Imagine if they used the same car parts from 4 years ago in the brand new models- nobody would buy. Same difference- Instead of judging the students and grading the students it should be flipped and you should judge the teachers. I should be able to see a real time student driven assessment of each teacher. Things are changing and I think you are gonna see a mad scramble by universities when the prestigiousness of the school is challenged by technology and savvy students.

]]> By: AURORA http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-10304 AURORA Fri, 31 Dec 2010 00:39:42 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-10304 In my opinion, a college cannot be held liable simply because one of its graduates cannot find employment, and vice versa.....Even if the student successfully completed her academic program and was awarded a diploma, a degree is not a job guarantee, certainly not in this job market. Although degrees is a requirement in most Job's Market. In my opinion, a college cannot be held liable simply because one of its graduates cannot find employment, and vice versa…..Even if the student successfully completed her academic program and was awarded a diploma, a degree is not a job guarantee, certainly not in this job market. Although degrees is a requirement in most Job’s Market.

]]> By: Your I.T. Person http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-8485 Your I.T. Person Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:35:18 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-8485 I myself am a self taught I.T. Administrator and Application/Database Developer who earned several certifications in the field, spent many years working with upper management reading books that target my challenges and putting things into practice while learning new techniques that have been very successful and have build a portfolio over time, which college heads were not able to do. In our try before you hire session, at my company we ended up getting rid of a few college grads because their knowledge was so far behind and seem to be spoiled. I think experience and character overrides College by far, remember in college courses you just read a little try to memorize till test time pick and choose teachers who most of time has spent little time, if any, in the field they are teaching. What is the difference between this and jumping on Google and reading the latest information about a subject, then putting it into practice. People that hire based on degrees are just selfishly looking out for themselves, because perhaps they have a degree, and end up hurting themselves and their company by passing up someone with more knowledge, certifications, character and experience, remember results is why you hire, not because you might have read something in a outdated textbook. That being said, I am working on a degree although as I take the classes it is confirming what I feel to be true. I myself am a self taught I.T. Administrator and Application/Database Developer who earned several certifications in the field, spent many years working with upper management reading books that target my challenges and putting things into practice while learning new techniques that have been very successful and have build a portfolio over time, which college heads were not able to do. In our try before you hire session, at my company we ended up getting rid of a few college grads because their knowledge was so far behind and seem to be spoiled. I think experience and character overrides College by far, remember in college courses you just read a little try to memorize till test time pick and choose teachers who most of time has spent little time, if any, in the field they are teaching. What is the difference between this and jumping on Google and reading the latest information about a subject, then putting it into practice. People that hire based on degrees are just selfishly looking out for themselves, because perhaps they have a degree, and end up hurting themselves and their company by passing up someone with more knowledge, certifications, character and experience, remember results is why you hire, not because you might have read something in a outdated textbook. That being said, I am working on a degree although as I take the classes it is confirming what I feel to be true.

]]> By: BAP http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-6088 BAP Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:04:23 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-6088 BA in Psychology graduating with honors May 2009---still no job in my field. My theory is that college is just a way to delay individuals from the truth that the jobs are just not there for the amount of people seeking them. A college degree was promised to give me an edge in the hiring process but the fact of the matter is that everyone is seeking an undergrad and the market is flooded. Now higher education says individuals should go back and seek their masters to get them ahead. The sad fact is that these Universities are making a ton of money while the jobs that are available are being filled, if not on a hiring freeze. These individuals are gaining valuable experience, which is what most job descriptions are asking for now and will even take as a replacement for a college education. Nothing is more frustrating than for a job description to say Bachelors degree required or 5 years of experience may substitute for degree! BA in Psychology graduating with honors May 2009—still no job in my field. My theory is that college is just a way to delay individuals from the truth that the jobs are just not there for the amount of people seeking them. A college degree was promised to give me an edge in the hiring process but the fact of the matter is that everyone is seeking an undergrad and the market is flooded. Now higher education says individuals should go back and seek their masters to get them ahead. The sad fact is that these Universities are making a ton of money while the jobs that are available are being filled, if not on a hiring freeze. These individuals are gaining valuable experience, which is what most job descriptions are asking for now and will even take as a replacement for a college education. Nothing is more frustrating than for a job description to say Bachelors degree required or 5 years of experience may substitute for degree!

]]> By: ken http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-5975 ken Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:23:54 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-5975 I totally agree. I graduated in 2001 with a degree in psychology. I was hoping to land a job as a social worker, but they wouldn’t hire me because I lacked experience. I could’ve gotten that experience working at an $8 an hour job for four years instead of going to college. Rather than getting a low paying job to gain experience in my field, I got temp job paying 1.5 times that much and gained experience in the insurance industry. I now make more doing this than I would’ve if I had gotten a job as a social worker. have a nice day. I totally agree. I graduated in 2001 with a degree in psychology. I was hoping to land a job as a social worker, but they wouldn’t hire me because I lacked experience. I could’ve gotten that experience working at an $8 an hour job for four years instead of going to college. Rather than getting a low paying job to gain experience in my field, I got temp job paying 1.5 times that much and gained experience in the insurance industry. I now make more doing this than I would’ve if I had gotten a job as a social worker.
have a nice day.

]]> By: pete http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-5521 pete Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:10:32 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-5521 I don't think the college should be responsible for the lack of opportunities in the work place. I believe this young lady should pick herself up and move forward. It is always a surprise to find that one door opens after another one is shut, and in many instances for the better. It would be interesting to know how she is doing now? Of course attitude and action are important factors, and if these are correct good almost always arrives. I don’t think the college should be responsible for the lack of opportunities in the work place.

I believe this young lady should pick herself up and move forward.

It is always a surprise to find that one door opens after another one is shut, and in many instances for the better.

It would be interesting to know how she is doing now?

Of course attitude and action are important factors, and if these are correct good almost always arrives.

]]> By: Thomas Grad http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-3666 Thomas Grad Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:32:11 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-3666 I also graduated from Thomas College. I can say that I do not regret going there. But I also have the same problem of not finding a job. I have two part-time jobs (which I am greatful for) but have been on over 20 interviews and still have no landed a job in my field. I've done two internships, and I felt that career services does not work hard enough to help place us in jobs. The career advisor helped create my resume but didn't exactly help look for jobs. Since I DID find a job, although not in my field of study (Communications), I was offered to complete 6 out of 12 courses of my Master's (MBA) for free. But, what about the other six course? I would have to pay for it and since I couldn't find a job anyways I wasn't going to risk being in even more debt so I turned down the offer (stupid me.) But, I loved my time at Thomas. Although I agree with number 5 (thomas student) above, I have say that EVERY college is money hungry, and I recieved WAY more financial aid at Thomas than I ever would have at a state university (trust me, I looked into it) I have been to many of my friends' colleges and must say that the thomas campus is not too bad compared to other dorms I have seen. The campus is so small so it is easy to maintain. And it was so easy to be involved on campus. I would have never had a chance to become editor-in-chief of a large university newspaper and although the Thomas newspaper was small, it was still a great educational experience to work on it. The teachers were very friendly I thought. The education wasn't bad, becuase my friends were learning the same things at their colleges as I was at Thomas. An english class at any college is the same as it is at Thomas. And I paid way less than some of my other friends. So if you're thinking about Thomas, remember these rules: Don't buy into the Job placement...they will not help you any more with finding a job than any other college. If you love a small school where you will know everyone and loved to be involved on campus then this is the school for you. But if you want a huge campus with 100 majors and clubs and frat houses then do NOT apply at Thomas. All classes are small size, which is great. The food isn't great, but a LOT of college food isn't great. Many colleges order from the same company. Thomas has a great history in business and technology and has built itself a good reputation but when it comes to the "newer" majors there can be some work done. The communications major wasn't the best with the resources that Thomas had, so the school really needs to expand to accomadate all the new programs they are adding. Overall, nice school. would love to do college over again. I also graduated from Thomas College. I can say that I do not regret going there. But I also have the same problem of not finding a job. I have two part-time jobs (which I am greatful for) but have been on over 20 interviews and still have no landed a job in my field. I’ve done two internships, and I felt that career services does not work hard enough to help place us in jobs. The career advisor helped create my resume but didn’t exactly help look for jobs. Since I DID find a job, although not in my field of study (Communications), I was offered to complete 6 out of 12 courses of my Master’s (MBA) for free. But, what about the other six course? I would have to pay for it and since I couldn’t find a job anyways I wasn’t going to risk being in even more debt so I turned down the offer (stupid me.) But, I loved my time at Thomas. Although I agree with number 5 (thomas student) above, I have say that EVERY college is money hungry, and I recieved WAY more financial aid at Thomas than I ever would have at a state university (trust me, I looked into it) I have been to many of my friends’ colleges and must say that the thomas campus is not too bad compared to other dorms I have seen. The campus is so small so it is easy to maintain. And it was so easy to be involved on campus. I would have never had a chance to become editor-in-chief of a large university newspaper and although the Thomas newspaper was small, it was still a great educational experience to work on it. The teachers were very friendly I thought. The education wasn’t bad, becuase my friends were learning the same things at their colleges as I was at Thomas. An english class at any college is the same as it is at Thomas. And I paid way less than some of my other friends. So if you’re thinking about Thomas, remember these rules: Don’t buy into the Job placement…they will not help you any more with finding a job than any other college. If you love a small school where you will know everyone and loved to be involved on campus then this is the school for you. But if you want a huge campus with 100 majors and clubs and frat houses then do NOT apply at Thomas. All classes are small size, which is great. The food isn’t great, but a LOT of college food isn’t great. Many colleges order from the same company. Thomas has a great history in business and technology and has built itself a good reputation but when it comes to the “newer” majors there can be some work done. The communications major wasn’t the best with the resources that Thomas had, so the school really needs to expand to accomadate all the new programs they are adding. Overall, nice school. would love to do college over again.

]]> By: Judy http://blog.gocollege.com/2009/08/03/a-bachelors-degree-but-no-job-shouldnt-a-college-stand-behind-their-product/#comment-2573 Judy Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:54:48 +0000 http://blog.gocollege.com/?p=2141#comment-2573 I totally agree. I graduated in 2001 with a degree in psychology. I was hoping to land a job as a social worker, but they wouldn't hire me because I lacked experience. I could've gotten that experience working at an $8 an hour job for four years instead of going to college. Rather than getting a low paying job to gain experience in my field, I got temp job paying 1.5 times that much and gained experience in the insurance industry. I now make more doing this than I would've if I had gotten a job as a social worker. The ironic thing is that many of my co-workers don't have degrees, but are trying to get them so they can get better paying jobs (that don't exist). Go figure. I totally agree. I graduated in 2001 with a degree in psychology. I was hoping to land a job as a social worker, but they wouldn’t hire me because I lacked experience. I could’ve gotten that experience working at an $8 an hour job for four years instead of going to college. Rather than getting a low paying job to gain experience in my field, I got temp job paying 1.5 times that much and gained experience in the insurance industry. I now make more doing this than I would’ve if I had gotten a job as a social worker. The ironic thing is that many of my co-workers don’t have degrees, but are trying to get them so they can get better paying jobs (that don’t exist). Go figure.

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